Did she act like a average person? Being interested in a subject without bringing emotions to the table is always the most important step. If I was of a mind to manipulate the Board by giving voice to the words they want me to utter, Id have sold my soul two decades ago when the lies would have benefited me and my youth passed long ago. He knows as he was in court and must have photos. They brought cakes and cookies and became friends so they were not going to fight over this. But due to a law enacted in Oregon after she first became eligible for parole, she can now only apply every 10 years. There have been behaviors that in the general course of events one may expect from a single parent that in a way have been falsely interpreted as being some form of evil.. After all, she was conditioned this way. She said a bunch of really stupid things in the media (my kids were lucky, not me gets the palm) and basically bury herself. So move on. Anyway, it takes a good scrubbing with soap and water to get rid of gun powder residues and doing so with only one arm would be quite difficult. This was all logged in Christies hospital reports and is found in the Appendix of the petition filed in Federal Court in 1996 in the section Hospital Reports. Our laws are not written that way. Nobody near to help. The point is our trials need to be conducted fairly and based on evidence. It was also said at trial that the shooter would have been left handed, which was not the case for Diane. But if the blogger is arguing that the blog is balanced and objective, thats patently untrue. Diane Downs was convicted because she didn't appear "sorry enough" during her TV appearances. Or can have an accomplice. At least two of those school mates reported Christies tortured confession to their mother I especially loved reading everyones comments. Nothing came from Diane herself. Crime is entertainment and big money so this case will continue to be on the forefront and the same assumptions will be repeated over and over again. The fruit of this abduction was the May 23, 1983, videotape re-enactment staged by Detective Tracy in which Diane is clearly hysterical. It can safely be presumed, other children told their parents, and that some of those parents reported the disturbing revelation to states Attorney, Prosecutor Fred Hugi. The Diane Downs' Case Was no Small Sacrifice On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. There is also a recording where she says that she had no idea who shot them. Celebrity Author Covers Case Ann Rule wrote 'Small Sacrifices,' later released as a movie. . Diane described the stranger that shot them on the road and a police artist came up with a sketch. No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. I watched and worried through her escapeto find her childrens real attackerthat bushy haired stranger . Downs is a worthless as the day is long.. Maybe you should read the blog before commenting. Mainly because she is being kept caged due to her name recognition at this point, not her offense. Brewer changed his mind. Conflicting reports say Downs also acted as a surrogate during her fourth pregnancy, giving birth to a daughter after her trial in 1984. They should have looked for a possible accomplice and checked all the leads. As Ms. Patterson left the stand, Diane complained to her attorney that Ms. Patterson had lied under oath. So how she behaved at the time, should not have been a factor influencing the authorities. The court can just do an APR, Assignment of Parental Rights. The fact that the accused in this case was atypical, makes her the perfect target. It's February 28, 2023, and Luke Schenn was just traded to the . The absence of the gun or gun powder residues on Diane is fact. There are no facts? Its a rather large part of the story. I changed the sites email recently to thetroublewithjustice@hotmail.com They were treated very badly in this matter. There were many problems with her trial and that matters. They would have welcomed them with open arms. He freely admitted HE decided to ask for a divorce on his birthday without consulting Diane, who was out of town so which one is it????? Diane recanted the stories about her dad who vehemently denied them. Gunpowder is one of the toughest stains around, when it comes to removing it from clothes. Her trial was speculative and based on so many fallacies. This reminds me of what a jail counselor named Rachel Roth said at the trial of Debra Milke Its my opinion that this young woman has been judged in a way that signifies something to do with how we view women in our society. Diane herself stated Cheryl was asleep on the front floorboard completely covered up with Dianes jacket how the hell did a stranger or a hitman(one of Dianes OTHER stories) KNOW Cheryl was there. I didn't get tipsy, I'm pretty good at handling alcohol. Considering that the daughter she murdered will never get a second chance, it will never be long enough unless its for her entire life. We already know that. 4. Unfortunately couldnt really do anything at that point, as the movie was not VHS yet, it only aired that oncein late 89. If the goal was to get rid of them, why didnt she emulate her lesser half in this matter? Reduces conflict because communication is limited. Most people described Dianes injury as minor or superficial but in reality, it was a very serious injury. It goes on and on. Everything I outlined should be public knowledge. They were in foster care for two years before the prosecutor adopted them. It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. U seem very one sided on every case Ann Rule has ever written just as u claim she did to u. N her parents didnt want custody of the children just like the father. Jump through the States hoops, or find a noose around your neck. She was the first to admit that at times, she was somewhat neglectful, impatient, yelled too much, and could have been a better mother, but she seemed to have turned the corner and was doing her best with the means at her disposal. Common sense will tell this Court, when Diane accidently slammed her mangled arm into the steering wheel of Detective Tracys car, it was ANYTHING but a laughing matter. Agreed. The gun is Def a big issue, the style of gun, whether it belonged to him or her, she Def had access to itthe child drew a picture of it, having large similarity to that gunbut it did always baffle me how she could find such a great hide for it in such a short period of time. Robert Schlosser, Cathy's father, lives in a 900 . It could be argued that he developed a relationship with the children and genuinely wanted them to join his family. Why does the blogger not clarify this? Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. Ms. Downs makes every effort to avoid emotional stimuli in order to reduce the demands made on her. Meaning a trial where lying or failing to disclose exculpatory evidence by prosecutors is not happening. You have that part absolutely right, so why was this protocol ignored? They examined her clothes also. But why was the judge in family court hopping over to criminal court? My website is in the process of being migrated so it has no photos. That towel should have been soaked in their blood not hers. Mr. Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial, he tried to retain defense attorney Melvin Belli who had the reputation of fighting for his clients and to win all his cases. I dont know either if she is guilty or not, but I believe there is a reasonable doubt surrounding the circumstances. Of course, because this is what she does when people put her on the spot and ask questions concerning her mother and the shooting. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song, The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. Once you are vilified in the media in the US, the way Downs and others have been, a lot of people shut their eyes and their mind to any other possibility than what was presented in the court of public opinion. Critics said she deliberately became pregnant in order to garner sympathy from the jury. Simply because I researched them. Someone found guilty of a crime should have a sentence that can be served and not one that is contingent on the remorse shown. So it looks and sounds like she is getting special treatment because of her notoriety. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. It was a dark and rural road. Seems like former husband, Steve Downs, should've been the custodial parent after the divorce. And some are even contradictory: shes mentally ill, but also not mentally ill; the site owner wants to focus on pure facts, yet ignore other facts; things happened in court, but those are irrelevant to what else what also happened in court, etc. I was raised by an evil narcissist and have not only seen this kind of behavior before, but I have seen the face of the devil and it is a look of pure evil that gives me the creeps. While not evidence of guilt or innocence, it is certainly worth noting as part of the overall wrongs perpetrated during this fiasco of a trial and subsequent appeals. Is Diane really a threat anymore? Great question. Washing soda is your best bet: It includes, among its ingredients, the exceedingly corrosive carbolic acid. Many troubling elements of the case were discovered after the trial, but there was enough during the proceedings to be asking questions. She folded it neatly around her arm. In reply to Nick. It was far fetched, unfoundedand convenientlyrelayedby Rule to boost the sales of her book. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular. The whole family were co-conspirators and involved in the crime? But in this case, she had no blood on her body or her clothing. Phenobarbital was administered alongside the Dilantin. I followed the trial. It was positive only on a small portion of her upper hand where she said the gun touched her when she wrestled with the attacker (a detail she had mentioned before they did the test). Evidence from a ballistics expert. She said She did it. It seems that the Downs were totally ignored. I try to bring up the elements that were totally ignored. You seem to forget that even a few jurors started by voting not guilty on some of the charges. The following article hopes to help you make more suitable choices and get more useful information Regardless of the facts you point out, there is no doubt in my mind that Diane Downs is guilty. For the upcoming Halo TV show, original Master Chief voice actor Steve Downes was recast, despite Cortana voice actor Jen Taylor reprising her role from the iconic video game franchise. I was always really bothered by that. Despite all of this: that the attorney became a Foster Carer irrelevant, inflammatory, subjective and bears no reflection on the trial, or indeed the trial outcome. During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a deviant sociopath.. Im not saying I know for a fact in my mind shes innocentbut there is NOT enough evidence for her to be guilty. Actor Robert Blake was found not guilty of the shooting murder of his wife. By many accounts, her children adored her. She had the right to a fair trial as much as anyone else out there. I found nothing. It will not make me popular, but I dont mind. If personal diaries were to be believed, half of the population would be in great jeopardy. In the 1996 Federal Petition, you can find the Anatomy of Brainwashing that can answer any question on this subject. It was cited that she keeps her emotions close to the vest. Mr. Jagger failed to challenge that competency. Page 40 of Case History. Justice is all that is left. Diane now had the title of dangerous offender. So not addressing the content of the blog and rambling about everything else while asking for a disclaimer is nailing it? Mrs. Fredericksons concern for her daughters emotional state was well placed. Tracy, I never said she was in the car. The prosecutor would gently shake his head and the good judge would follow with a ruling. The prosecutor didn't even know that after the Mother's Day road rage incident in 2020, Rivas was charged in Maryland with leaving the scene of another accident involving bodily injury. This blogger believes in the presumption of innocence and in the possibility of redemption. During a trial, we have to go with evidence only. Steven and Diane married on November 13, 1973. Ffs maybe u should go back to writing screenplays. Yet that didnt stop Knick from asking Mr. Frederickson for a job and for Dianes hand in marriage (Appendix 81, page Case History Page 25). My question is: why is she still locked up? Not in this case. Clearly the social workers were working with the DAs office and taking advice on best interest of the children from them. That is not a quick process and is very invasive to a familys privacy. Where to begin? I understand that the authorities were afraid to leave the two remaining children under her care if they thought she was guilty, but they could have been released to the grandparents or other blood relatives with supervised visits from their mom considering that she was not charged with any crime. One of them named Angel, called 15-year-old Christie on the phone. I like your approach. Seems to me that if that part of the story were true, and she really wanted to find her childrens shooter, she would have provided that information. If she was the shooter, it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Your prayers were answered. The grandparents were babysitting the children often and had several children who were well adjusted. But Diane couldnt do that. They hardly investigated any other lead after a couple of weeks. What about the terror of being interrogated by strangers and separated from her family? Nice to see this blog is still active in 2017, being a lot of groupsmessage boards and such, on subjects like this has no activity for years. Mr. Jagger read the report and said, you were right. 1) Gunshot residue/blood splatter. I dont care what Diane Downs says at the parole board hearing, except if she is innocent or guilty. I dont know that it could get worse than writing an asinine comment on a restorative justice website that states that only respectful and constructive comments will be posted. Will Cheryl ever be let out of her grave? Exactly Libby why did they say during the trial that he saw his mom? If it was not such a high profile case, Diane Downs would have been paroled a long time ago, considering her good behavior and lack of priors. She had been isolated from her whole family and being unethically interrogated. Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. Yes, but it is a fact that she was starting to say that she did not know who shot them when it happened. Fred Hugi was pretty upset when Ann Rule went Hollywood with his case. They were the small sacrifices. Speculative. Were they involved in the plot too?? On a side note, what do you think of parole of Leslie Van Houton? It is not a plus, but it is not a crime either. Diane had spent three days in the hospital ingesting massive doses of Morphine, Demerol, Percodan, and visterol. Two jurors had voted that Diane was not guilty of attempted murder or first-degree assault, but endedup voting to convict her of murder. Its more boring to tell the truth and the readers might not have flocked to read a fair story without no real heroes and villains. So the prosecutor adopted the kids? Criminalist James Pex was pretty clear about this. It is not because a defendant is found guilty or disliked that it is acceptable to bend the rules. This really makes me angry, that prosecuter and judge should be sued along with the writter. I have nothing to gain and I am not making up songs and dances about a unicorn. Diane was diagnosed as being bipolar and subsequently diagnosed by a psychiatrist before sentencing. I refer you to this section of the blog: They claimed to have found two lead cartridges in Dianes rifle at home that supposedly matched the ones used during the crime. The judge who took away her children presided over her criminal trial. Not optional, kids should not be in limbo that long, but it happens all the time. Yes, Christie said she did not know who did it. She was interrogated without a representative from the defense and was not taped for the most part. Her family members were quite capable of taking care of the children. Feb. 4, 2022 -- An analysis from a trio of economists says pandemic lockdowns during the first wave of the COVID-19 pandemic did little to reduce the number of COVID-related deaths. There is absolutely no evidence that Hungry like the Wolf was playing when Christie got shot but it is another detail they added to bring a dramatic element to this trial. You do not refute any of the points I made in the blogs. On June 2nd, 1983, Juvenile Court Judge Gregory Foote held a hearing to take Christie and Danny away from ALL blood family (thus isolating them). Mission accomplished. One of the flaws was the relationship between the DA and the children. I am a Mortuary science student, true crime fanatic, and have been following the Downs case since it happened. It is not, as the blogger frequently refers to, evidence. And that Ann Rule took advantage of the situation to sell her book. We talked about Steve's love of Marvel films and we joked about the staff knowing we were on a blind date because the waitress had . Yes Gigi, the same judge who had removed the children was also presiding over her trial. Theres a lot to be said here, still. Lets not take that lightly. Seeing her giggle and laugh during a videoed reconstruction gave me, as a mother, a sickening feeling. But she suffered from mental illness and the circumstances were traumatic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLkIcSzftE&ab_channel=DianeDownsArchives. had to wait for Christie to be able to tell them who did it. I lived in Eugene, Oregon for years. It was the story of Diane Downs. It appeared rigged and the fact that Ann Rule sat in the courtroom ready to produce a Masterpiece of Guilt could only help the prosecution. The strong, emotive language. As an adoptive parent I cant even imagine trying to justify to my daughter our adopting her if we had in any way been a part of the case to terminate her from her bio family. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. Or that the sketch did not resemble the suspect enough? Now if the shooter was this James Haynes guy, someone who apparently Diane Downs knew from buying drugs, then that would explain why she stopped in the middle of that road. Interesting that the article has one of the same elements that Diane perpetrated when she drove to the hospital the night of the murders she made more of a fuss about her arm injury than she did about one of her kids dying and two of them being gravely and permanently wounded. Considering the circumstances, it is difficult not to be a bit cynical about this grand gesture: relevance? He said all the police needed was for Diane to bear witness against her ex-husband. Therefore, my understanding is that the original sentence is deemed indefinite with parole hearings every 10 years. Re Diane Downs I invite reading Synopsis quite similar to above: OREGONs Juridical Small Sacrifices She repeated it years later at school. Considering the circumstances, it is difficult not to be a bit cynical about this grand gesture. And according to the law, she should have been released by now, independently of what she says or not. But as usual, it was slanted in the worst possible way. I worked for county child welfare services in Colorado for a decade. I am not saying she is innocent. He didn't indicate whether Downs would appeal. It was one of the most disturbing stories I've watched. I also found it interesting that when he had visited Diane in prison, he had remarked a strange air about her; which did not mean guilt. Andthe DA adopted her other two children. And she clearly remembered the April 1983, rape that Mr. Downs would later refer to as love making. Posted by October 30, 2021 apush gilded age test on why didn't steve downs get custody The way it was. If Hugi got attached to the children, why did he wait 2 years when little Christie was starting to say she had no clue who shot them? As far as her innocence goes and the possibility of being paroled if she admitted her crime, Diane strongly maintains her innocence. I enjoyed your take, and agree their are several reasons with this, and lets be honestevery other case ever prosecuted, to take pause and question but Diane continues to lie, make up brand new stories about people after her, and has made no moves to better herself in any way shape or form while shes been in prison, by her own admission. This unexpected proposal took Diane by surprise at a large family gathering. It really doesnt matter that much of the trial and due process was faulty, because its so obvious that Diane is the one who did it and that justice was served. It would not benefit you, my children, or society for me to perpetuate that lie. why didn't steve downs get custody. But it is not hard to see that the way this tape and her confession were obtained was not legitimate. I appreciate this whole blog just want to give you a heads up. The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb: opinion, not fact The detectives took Diane to the crime scene and were able to retrieve shell cases on the ground where the incident happened. He actually was the one who suggested theybecome intimate after many friendly, platonic conversations. http://sputniknews.com/us/20150620/1023613662.html#ixzz3djEXlSAC // The Prison State of America Dec 28, 2014 Chris Hedges, http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_prison_state_of_america_20141228 Diane Downs and Alice Crummins were considered sluts and cold-blooded women and were judged on their unusual character. http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf. Diane needs some serious spiritual advancement and atonement before she ever will have or deserve peace. Im sorry but your article is tosh. Her daughter told the media she watched Small Sacrifices several times. The case NEVER made sense to me. This blogger thinks that if you had bothered reading the blogs that you just mentioned, you would know that I do not call anyone innocent. I just read your opinion on the Pamela Smart case and the Scott Peterson case. 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